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Yeah

I heard the original a couple of years ago and was kind of awestruck by it, it amazed but honestly didn't surprise me much considering who you are. This version was a pleasure to hear. I especially love the new part from like "1:48 to 2:12", I like that kind of "call and response"- type segments in a composition, and that one was especially clever. Anyway, brilliant as always I guess. You're far above the level of almost any audio submitter around here so criticism is kinda pointless, heh.

By the way are you on iTunes? I would like to buy a nicer version of this one but I'd prefer to do it through an iTunes account.

DavidOrr responds:

Thanks SBB! I don't have anything on iTunes yet- Im getting my feet wet with a simple store I'm managing on my site, then I'll probably submit a collection of tracks to iTune, Amazon and other stores.

Thanks so much for the review!

haha

haha I love that wording: play it really loud on speakers, especially BIG ones.

Anyway, it didn't trigger me too much really. Why would you have absolutely EVERYTHING following the chord progression all the time? Bass, all melodies, everything, they're just arpeggios or riffs based on the chord progression, continuously repeated, and there's no clear melody that shines through or sticks in your head. Thus, it is percieved by me as quite boring and empty, almost like a backing track or something.

That's my main problem with the track. The production is good; loud, quite clear and not too compressed, but I feel there's a bit much high frequency content, so it's just too harsh to listen to at high volumes.

syphonmax responds:

I did have a melody I wanted to use, but thing is when I used it the song was 11MB on 160kbps and 8 mins long...Which Newgrounds just doesn't accept.

So I'll try and upload it somewhere else and link it

hello

The intro with the super-mellow pad is very beautiful, I like how it kinda morphs from low-frequent hum into tonalty, if you get what I mean. I feel the bright pad kinda disturbs that feeling. You could probably have made a more smooth transition by automating the filter (then again, last time I checked, you can only automate the level and panning in Garageband so it may not be an option. Is that correct?). The drums are a little up front and imo really don't fit. For this song, I think the drums would sound both more relaxing and more powerful if they were played at half speed.

I'm having a bit of a problem with the track after about the first minute... it doesn't feel like the different tracks really play that well together, it's a bit like they wander off and do their own little thing. I think what would really make this track feel tighter and more "complete" it a good, solid bassline and a distinct melody. At the moment, I'm not really feeling it. That may just be me though, since it seems like almost everybody else loves it.

(By the way I could help you out with the drums if you'd like... send me a pm with the .band file or something I guess.)

FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

That drum offer sounds awesome, and perhaps playing drums at a 60 tempo would sound awesome thats a good idea. Thanks for the honest review. I am really proud about the buildup. :)

Ok, then I shall judge it...

Yeah, so to be fair the loops don't sound good together, at all. In any solid composition you wouldn't change the basic drum beat once every bar. If you're going to use loops like that, at least keep the same steady drum beat and use parts of other drum loops as fills or something else that doesn't make the uncreative loop drag-and-dropping so painfully obvious. That guitar loop actually is a good starting point for a moody guitar melody, that is if you actually go into the midi file and edit it. By the way, a little bit of reverb (choose it as an effect) would help this song in order to hide the loops behind a nice layer of room ambience.

Very nice

The lyrics sound kind of confused, kind of depressive and very regretful. The instrumentation fits that very well, I think. Love the ambient bad of synths that almost moans in the background. The keyboard is also very nice and vintage sounding. Some things, like the choir, feel a little bit out of place to me though. And the bass sound is quite weak. It's a quite nice piece overall though. Looking forward to a full version.

very cool

The composition is really cool, it's really got attitude. I think the strongest part of the entire song is 0:30 to 0:55 (and any other similar parts). The staccato quarter notes resemble a military march, right. Very clever. Fits very well with the "evil king" concept, maybe not for a dead serious movie though. Perhaps if the evil king in reality is manic depressive with a low self esteem.

The instruments are a bit harsh sounding for my taste. It would be more pleasant is the string instruments were softer, but then again you might've made them harsh like that to fit the theme. I think the piano is the weak link in the song. It's got a very plain sound, and it's obvious that it's programmed or at least strictly quantized. It sounds good in the mix, but kinda dull when playing solo. I'd have a look at that and try to "humanize" the solo melodies a bit if I were you.

Really enjoyed the song though, great base idea and a good execution.

(lol at penguin sam and his bass)

Box-Killa responds:

Yeah I actually quantized and changed the length of the notes by a small amount, I suppose It is just not noticeable enough.

Yeah the violin was trouble, I ended up just using nexus because I couldn't find anything which sounded nice but still had a military sort of feel.

XD Thanks for the review!

wow, love this

Full of energy and punch right from the bat, the piece has a very nice and clear hi-fi sound that creates instant high expectations. The bass is relatively mellow, but that only creates more tension during the more mellow parts (with the filtered drums and all). The various tracks are nice and fat when that is required, but they never take too much space in the mix. The drums sound great (though there's a bit of an unpleasant hi-mid boost on the snare) Love the drum programming too, very nice fills. Plus, you elegantly and seemingly effortlessly transition from the typical breakbeat to those nice half-time, almost dubstep-like beats at 2:33, and back again.

The mix isn't really lacking in the bass area, however I think the treble is a bit extreme, I can't listen to this loudly because the treble is almost painful. That's the only catch really, it's a pretty sick tune overall.

nice backing

The background is very nice, lovely chords and, as far as I know, great sounds, but it's overshadowed by the rather cheap sounding lead synth. Put a lowpass filter on it or something, it think this piece would sound much better (and more flash friendly!) if the lead synth wasn't as prominent. Not much more to say about this loop, please take my suggestion into consideration though.

Box-Killa responds:

Lol, you are perfectly correct, I worked hard on getting a nice chord progression, with those pesky 9ths and the flat 5. Yeah the lead definitely does not go with jazz, I was kinda just looking for something really annoying. Perhaps I could replace it with a jazz guitar, or sax, or some other instrument commonly used in jazz lead. I suppose I will just make an entire other song, better than this one. Perhaps I could turn the lead around and still have that sorta electronica effect with the jazz. Thanks for the review and I will definately take your suggestions into consideration :D

don't know about this one, sorry man

Sounds like it has been compressed by a ridiculous amount... it's like you entered the loudness war with nukes. If you look at it in a waveform editor the track generally looks like a solid block. Careful with that compression, it severely damages the sound quality.

A note about the composition- it's all straight 16th/8th/4th notes: the piano plays a little awkward straight 4th note sequence in the beginning, then a melody of 8th notes. The drums also have this robotic preciseness, it all ends up sounding quite lifeless. You may want to experiment a bit with the phrasing (i.e placement of notes and pauses in the piece), to make the piece sound more expressive, lively and interesting.

I'm not so sure man, it's a decent piece of music, but I believe the things mentioned above are quite important, and thus didn't find myself enjoying it much.

Box-Killa responds:

HAHAH! Mutliband compressor FTW! I always seem to have trouble with the bass drum and the bass. The bassdrum is never loud enough and when I them in with the rest of the song, the sound goes all stuttery and the lead goes all stuttery and it misses bits out. I can fix it by turning the basedrum/bass down, but then its not loud enough. Maybe I need better drums samples! If you have a solution, please pm me :D

Yep my timing is pretty basic lol! Hmm maybe I will make some swing :D Yes about the phrasing, I should have done that.

Thanks for the review, it was very helpful. I think I'm going to be a lot better musician now :D Peace!

quite sweet

I love the concept, it's a very interesting fusion of a hip hoppy beat and brass instrumentation on top. The samples sound quite lo-fi and harsh, so unless that's the intention, this song could benefit from higher quality samples (most of it is fine, really, the trumpet first heard at 0:09 just makes a bad impression).

The arrangement is nice, very different from most compositions heard at NG, the instruments complement each other nicely. Most of the instruments tend have very repetitive themes though, after a while it all sounds like one big rhythm section. Something like an acoustic guitar solo would be a welcome melodic addition, which would probably fit perfectly with the style of this track as well.

Looking forward to a finished version of this, please pm me if you finish it because I love the idea

krssvr responds:

yeah about the samples i have to use soundfonts because i have a lack of quality samples (can't wait till i get komplete 6).. so i make due with my huge soundfont library, i added to too much treble to the trombones on accident and they kind of rip through the song. i made the snares lo-fi on purpose to get that reggaeton feel to it. i left out the main melody because unfortunately FL Studio demo doesn't allow for saving, but i still plan on finishing this song. the guitar is what i was planning on adding but i hate virtual guitars becasue they sound too fake and I'm only a rookie at real guitar. thanks for the awesome review, maybe we can collab when i get that Komplete 6 if you want

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